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The Tannin Question: Is Sagrantino Too Much?

April 29, 2026 12 min Catherine Ashworth & Marco Bellini
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Catherine and Marco debate Sagrantino di Montefalco - Italy's most tannic grape. Is it a masterpiece of structure or an exercise in endurance? They explore what makes Sagrantino unique, how Umbrian producers are rethinking extraction, and whether the grape's reputation is its greatest asset or its biggest obstacle.

Catherine

This is Sotto Voce.

Marco

Conversations on Italian wine.

Catherine

I tasted a young Sagrantino last week.

Marco

Mm.

Catherine

It was like chewing on a leather belt.

Marco

Which one?

Catherine

Does it matter?

Marco

Yes. It matters very much.

Catherine

Why.

Marco

Because if it was a two-year-old from a producer still pulling everything the grape has - skins, seeds, stems - then yes, of course. Leather. Grip. You haven't tasted the wine yet. You've tasted the potential.

Catherine

And if it was a ten-year-old?

Marco

Then I'd want to know where it was stored. How it was opened.

Catherine

You see, this is what Sagrantino's defenders always do.

Marco

What do we do.

Catherine

Move the goalposts. The wine is too young. The wine was stored wrong. The wine was the wrong producer. At some point you have to ask whether the defense itself reveals a flaw in the grape.

Marco

Or a flaw in the tasting.

Catherine

Mm.

Marco

The question is not whether Sagrantino is difficult. It is. The question is whether difficult means flawed.

Catherine

That is the question.

Catherine

Right. The tannin. Let's be specific about it.

Marco

Please.

Catherine

Sagrantino has the highest measured polyphenol content of any major wine grape. Roughly three to four times the phenolic load of Sangiovese.

Marco

Three to four times.

Catherine

The skins are unusually thick. Dense with tannin-producing compounds. And tannins bind to proteins - that's the drying, gripping sensation on your gums. In Sagrantino, they're not just abundant. The molecular structure tends toward larger polymers. Coarser.

Marco

You feel it differently than Nebbiolo, for example.

Catherine

Nebbiolo tannins are fine-grained. Grippy but almost powdery at the edges. Sagrantino is - it's structural in a different way. Denser.

Marco

In the vineyard - if you hold the cluster in your hand, the skin is almost waxy. Much thicker than Sangiovese. You feel it before any wine is made.

Catherine

You've done that.

Marco

I live twenty minutes from Montefalco. I have done that many times.

Catherine

(light laugh) Right. Rather puts me at a disadvantage.

Marco

The color too - the grape is nearly black at harvest. The juice runs almost purple when you break it.

Catherine

Anthocyanins. The pigment and the tannin often travel together - thick-skinned grapes tend toward both.

Marco

So the color and the grip are the same conversation.

Catherine

Essentially.

Marco

And compared to something like Tannat? Because people reach for that comparison.

Catherine

Tannat can actually exceed Sagrantino in raw tannin. But the style is different - Tannat tends toward more aggressive astringency early, then softens significantly with age. Sagrantino is more consistent across time. Stubborn, one might say.

Marco

Mourvèdre?

Catherine

Closer in character. But Mourvèdre has more give when it's ripe. Sagrantino - the tannin doesn't soften the same way even at full ripeness. That's what makes it genuinely unusual.

Marco

Unusual, or extreme.

Catherine

Both. The question is whether extreme is a feature.

Marco

The history matters here. Because this was not always a dry wine.

Catherine

No.

Marco

The passito - the dried grape version - that was the traditional Sagrantino. Made for Easter. A sweet wine, deep red, almost liturgical. This is what people drank in Montefalco for centuries.

Catherine

And in a passito style, the tannin is less confrontational. The residual sugar moderates it.

Marco

Exactly. The grape evolved in a context where it was always sweet. The dryness is a recent invention.

Catherine

Nineteen-seventies. Marco Caprai.

Marco

Caprai is the reason there is a Sagrantino di Montefalco DOCG at all. In the nineteen-sixties the variety had nearly disappeared - maybe five hectares total in the world. He spent years researching it. Clonal selection. Rebuilding the plantings.

Catherine

A rescue operation.

Marco

A remarkable one. The DOCG came in 1992. And then - and this is where it gets complicated - the nineties style took hold.

Catherine

The extraction wars.

Marco

Longer maceration, more color, more concentration. The critics rewarded weight. And Sagrantino - if you push extraction, it gives you extraction. Generously.

Catherine

Rather too generously.

Marco

These wines from the nineties and early two-thousands - some of them were extraordinary on paper. On the palate they were... demanding.

Catherine

Demanding is generous.

Marco

(light laugh) Yes. Perhaps. But you have to understand - there was a logic to it. The grape had nearly been lost. Proving it could compete internationally meant speaking the language the market understood.

Catherine

The language of power and points.

Marco

And it worked. The recognition came. But it also convinced many people that Sagrantino was inherently brutal. That the grape itself was the problem.

Catherine

When in fact the technique was the problem.

Marco

That's the argument the new generation is making. Estates like Antonelli, Tabarrini. And Di Filippo.

Catherine

Which brings us to the philosophy question.

Marco

It does. Because for some of these producers it's not only about technique. It's about a completely different relationship to the vineyard.

Catherine

And how are they doing it differently - concretely.

Marco

Shorter maceration. Some are pulling the skins much earlier than the old style. Less contact time means less extraction. Gentler pressing.

Catherine

And the oak.

Marco

Moving away from small barrique - which adds its own tannin - toward larger vessels. Tonneaux, botti. Less surface area, neutral wood. The wine softens without picking up more structure from the container.

Catherine

Letting the grape's own architecture do the work.

Marco

And in some cases, picking slightly earlier. Before the very last stage of skin tannin development.

Catherine

Which trades concentration for integration.

Marco

Right. And there's a broader philosophical shift underneath that. Biodynamic farming. Organic viticulture. A different conversation with the land.

Catherine

Di Filippo.

Marco

Di Filippo is a good example of what this actually looks like in practice.

Catherine

ICEA certified since 2010.

Marco

I was in their vineyard - I want to say three years ago, maybe four. Walking the rows with Emma. And there were horses.

Catherine

Mm.

Marco

Working horses. For cultivation. And the ground - I noticed it when I walked on it. You can feel the difference from a conventionally farmed vineyard. More alive. More give underfoot.

Catherine

What does that do to the wine, specifically.

Marco

The argument - and I find it credible - is that vine stress management improves. Roots go deeper in healthier soil. More complex mineral uptake. The tannins may not be fewer. But they ripen more evenly.

Catherine

Phenolic maturity, not just sugar maturity. That's the key distinction.

Marco

Exactly. Getting them to a place of integration rather than raw aggression. Sugar ripens on its own schedule. The tannins - those compounds take longer, or they need different conditions.

Catherine

I've tasted aged Di Filippo. There's something more... yielding about it.

Marco

Yielding is the right word.

Catherine

And when I say aged - I mean ten years. That's what this grape requires.

Marco

The DOCG minimum is thirty months total. Twelve in wood.

Catherine

Which is nothing. For Sagrantino, thirty months is an adolescent.

Marco

(light laugh) You are hard on adolescents.

Catherine

I'm accurate about Sagrantino. At ten years - a well-made bottle is a different wine entirely. The tannins polymerize, begin to fall out as sediment. The fruit starts to show.

Marco

The tobacco and dried cherry.

Catherine

Black olive. A kind of iron note. Something savory that wasn't there before. It becomes - almost brothy.

Marco

Umami. That's the word in Italian kitchens. The wine reaches for the food.

Catherine

And with food it transforms. The tannin binds protein - that's the chemistry - so aged meat, game, stracotto, aged cheese. The structure that seems brutal alone becomes architecture alongside the food.

Marco

Piccione. Wood pigeon. This is what people eat in Umbria with Sagrantino. The richness of the bird fat - the tannin cuts through it, and then there's nothing left but the flavor of both.

Catherine

It's a wine that presupposes a table.

Marco

Always. It was never meant to be tasted alone in a competition glass.

Catherine

And yet that's how it gets judged.

Marco

Which is why the reputation suffers. You take any food wine out of its context and it looks strange.

Catherine

Fino sherry without anchovies.

Marco

Exactly. Baffling on its own. Essential at the table.

Catherine

Right. And here is where I want to disagree with you.

Marco

Please.

Catherine

Sagrantino's reputation as too tannic is now its biggest obstacle. There are buyers - intelligent buyers - who would never pick it up because someone told them it was a chewing exercise. That reputation is doing the grape damage it doesn't deserve.

Marco

I agree with that.

Catherine

So the solution is to soften it. To make a Sagrantino that's more approachable, earlier, less aggressive.

Marco

No.

Catherine

No?

Marco

The tannin is not the problem. The tannin is what Sagrantino is. If you reduce it enough to make the wine conventionally approachable, you have made something else. Something generically dark and Italian.

Catherine

One might argue that a wine nobody drinks is a failed project.

Marco

One million bottles a year. From six hundred and sixty hectares. This is a very small world.

Catherine

It is.

Marco

It does not need to be Pinot Noir. It does not need to appeal to everyone. It is a specific, difficult, extraordinary thing - for people willing to engage with it on its own terms.

Catherine

I respect that position. But the new generation isn't trying to make Sagrantino less itself. They're trying to make it the best version of itself. More integrated tannin is not less tannin.

Marco

Hmm.

Catherine

Shorter maceration at Di Filippo - you still have Sagrantino levels of tannin. You've changed how they sit in the wine. That's not capitulation.

Marco

This is true. And I don't object to that. What I object to is when the conversation about approachability tips into - let's call it accommodation. Where the goal becomes market share rather than the expression of this particular place and this particular grape.

Catherine

And you think that pressure is real.

Marco

I think it exists. Small region. Difficult grape. Consumers who have options. Yes, the pressure is real.

Catherine

But the answer to that pressure isn't winemaking conservatism either. The hyper-extracted nineties style - that was also a kind of accommodation. To a different market, a different critical vocabulary.

Marco

Yes. Yes, that's fair.

Catherine

So the question isn't really softening versus not softening. It's who you're making the wine for.

Marco

Mm. Perhaps the answer is that the best producers are asking the vineyard. Not the market, not the critics. The vineyard.

Catherine

That's a lovely answer. It also doesn't answer the question.

Marco

No. It doesn't.

Catherine

Where I land: the tannin IS the point, yes. And the reputation for brutality is unfair. And those two things are in genuine tension. I'm not sure the grape resolves it.

Marco

The grape has not resolved it in fifty years of the dry style. I don't expect it will in our lifetimes.

Catherine

Rather reassuring.

Marco

It keeps the conversation interesting.

Catherine

So. What to do with this information if you're standing in front of a Sagrantino.

Marco

Time.

Catherine

Time.

Marco

The answer to almost everything with this grape is time. Taste a young Sagrantino and it tells you almost nothing useful about what it will become. Wait eight years. Wait ten. Then you have a conversation.

Catherine

And with food.

Marco

Always with food. If you open a Sagrantino and drink it on its own - you're working against the wine. This is Sunday lunch, something braised, people at the table.

Catherine

It's a wine with an argument to make. And the argument lands better in context.

Marco

Like the leather belt you tasted.

Catherine

I'm going to revisit that bottle.

Marco

With something from the grill.

Catherine

Noted. Next time - Marco and Elena, biodynamic winemaking in Umbria.

Marco

A subject I have strong opinions on.

Catherine

I expect you do.

Catherine

Sotto Voce is produced by The Italian Connection. New episodes every two weeks.

Marco

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